Saturday, January 22, 2011

Disciplinary Differences

I am still troubled by D and G's claim that each concept exists on its own distinct plane apart from any other.  This seems to mean that we can never compare concepts side-by-side and determine which one is "better" or "closer to the truth".  Furthermore, it seems to deny us access to anyone else's concepts in the first place.  Where we have been able to say in the past that Bob and Sue agree that Sartre's concept of bad faith is correct, by D and G's estimation we cannot even say that they are talking about the same thing since neither of them has access to the original plane on which Sartre's concept lies.  All that each of them has is their own reconstitution or reactivation of Sartre's concept on their own new planes with their own new ends, distinct from one another.  Yes, these distinct planes intersect at certain points, so Bob and Sue could discuss the merits of one little part of a concept, but the probability of their intersections being large enough that the conversation is even intelligible seems infinitesimally small.  Not only does this make philosophical debate between Bob and Sue nearly impossible, but it also makes any one philosopher's study of past concepts into a subjectively motivated re-interpretation of the past.

What makes all of this so troubling is that it seems to render philosophy as a discipline directionless.  Science is able, by means of its repeatability to establish some ideas as objectively true, to an extent.  In doing so, an entire discipline is able to agree on the truth of some things and the falsity of others, yielding a direction for the entire discipline to move in -- towards further objective truths in the same vein.  Philosophy seems unable to do this.  First of all, our inability to constitute a concept beyond our personal experience of it nullifies our ability to agree on the truth of things.  Without a truth that we can agree upon and know that we hold in common, we are left with each philosopher reactivating parts of old concepts willy-nilly based on their raw appeal to his or her own ends and with no real consideration of their original constitutions (which we cannot access).  If Bob doesn't have the ability to objectively say that Sartre's conception of the purpose of man is more correct than Plato's, then he has no way of setting a bearing towards truth as an individual thinker or a representative of his discipline.

I fully acknowledge the need to ask the meta-questions; the need for philosophy as a necessary underpinning for scientific and artistic issues.  Just as the hammer is a necessary to the driving of a nail, so philosophy is necessary to scientific progress.  The problem that D and G leave us with is one of a mangled and impotent hammer.  The hammer is no less necessary to the nail than before, but the hammer we have is altogether incapable of driving a nail.  While philosophy has a purpose, D and G present us with a framing of philosophical thought which is incapable of accomplishing the very object that it must to accomplish.  I hope that, as the book continues, we are able to rescue philosophy from this sorry state.

3 comments:

  1. While that may be true of using philosophy objectively to drive the nail. It still works very well in the subjective realm. It works on your interpretation of the concepts of the past to underpinning scientific and artistic issues. This is why so many people who have had similar up bringing tend to have different opinions and interpretations of the same issues.
    From a subjective standpoint one can advance scientific issues the way they want.
    Science has always been driven by subjective philosophical ideas that seem to change as the generations lean towards different philosophies and that often directs the science towards particular objective truths.
    If it is true that the concepts not being able to be fully attained by another ruin our ability to advance science, than one would have to throw out all scientific progress in the past.

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  2. American Philosphy might be able to save us from this problem as well. People do not just reactivate concepts willy-nilly. If the concepts certain people prefer are based on experiences that form their overall beliefs than we are saved from the problem of jumping back and forth. Because our accumalating experiences are helping to shape our beliefs philosophy and science are moving in one direction. It is moving with the reality people are seeing and together peoples cumulative experiences are shaping an overall direction of philosophy and science

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  3. The dependability of claims made in science are based upon the idea that they can be repeated. There is a problem, a hypothesis, and a result that happens regardless of outside ideas. I agree that to make the claim science is the only objective realm of questions brings the realm of philosophy into question. If objective truths cannot be drawn and a sense of correctness among people cannot be found, then the purpose of philosophy is brought into question. This perspective would reveal philosophy as merely enjoying the process of thought without the idea that it could actually do something. I also agree with you that I hope the book bring to light the absolute importance of philosophy and reveals how it has contributed to our society.

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